So 100 percent of all complaints should be at those in church leadership who leaked the news. Isnt this why our precious savior came? What you are doing is accusing someone you dont know of sins that you know nothing of to deflect guilt from someone you idolize. Lots of supportlots of informationas well as a lot of CC nuts. Let me also say this. Bob Coy is fortunate because his sin was found out. God bless you all. Who ever got that car? Cue the anthem.. Its crazy that people think Bob Coy had ONE affair, caught a conscience about it and decided to step down. Michael has his little posse of the usual suspects, always looking for a lynching, like circling vultures at the scent of a wounded sojourner, depart from me for I never knew you, you workers of iniquity! Are the words those of your ilk will ever hear unless you repent, you shall know them by their fruits, and your fruit stinks! I hope you reconsider your life and realize there is a more excellent way to live which God wants to give you. I trip on all you. So what your all saying is your stronger than samson, you love God more than David and your wiser than Solomon. We are all vulnerable and weak!! The make-up session with DC was at the auction so it was bid on. Just as Peter recovered after his denial of Christ. Boy do you have to stretch to believe this stuff. OK, then dont tempt them by giving them too much power and authority. Hundreds left or found other churches while Calvary scrambled to find a new leader, eventually settling on Pastor Doug Sauder, a less flashy but respected veteran of the organization. we his congregation, and his family, are the ones that need to deal with it yes or no? Instead go to the surest source about Jesus, the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. That has calmed my spirit a little. Michael says: February 9, 2020 at 7:20 am. what is your motive for this? Please dont forget them in your prayers that God will put godly counselors in their paths to help them with their pain, their fear, and more than likely their doubt in their own faith. I hope that Pastor Bob has not given his wife an STD. Hes off the list of pastors, the history of the church gives no mention of him, and the sermon library is unavailable at this time. As an attendee of this church I am shocked and disappointed. Deal with it. You have to take literal and spiritualize it all. Police later spoke with the victim in September 2015, but she said she was not sure whether she wanted to go through with a criminal investigation or testify. So pray for those left in the wake that HE made. That is why Mark Davis & Clay heacocks leftthey saw this stuff and said enough is enough!! "People were really, really hurt," says Colleen Healy, a Broward resident who began following Coy in 1995. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. I reject his whole eschatological scheme, so I could care less. I am. It's unclear how seriously they took the claim of the teenager whom New Times is not naming in accordance with our policy on reporting on victims of sexual abuse who said Coy had forced her to have sex even when she was only 4 years old. Do we expose a fraud or recover a brother? The problem has been evident that many raise there pastors up as idols. 6 And the wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. I have not argued a single Lutheran point today. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Doctors performed surgery; despite the prognosis of a complete recovery, Coddington died on February 27, 2008. As she saw how the machinery kept him alive after his spirit had died, she knew that was not the fate she wanted for herself. Yes he lost his Kingdom but he gets to keep the treasure! I was there. Will try and just observe rather than contribute. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. (Eph. That is Calvary Chapels biggest failure, an arrogant view of the Pastor and his ability to be Jesusand its made worse when the congregants know this and still support a flawed leadership model that is a corrupting force among the Pastors in Calvary Chapel. note the opening line Amillennialism is the mainstream Christian end-times theology. Babs, As we were talking about a couple of weeks ago perhaps Coy owns the intellectual property. I feel bad for the wife and kids .BOB COY another Tiger Woodshey kids your father is that womanizer right..the media will have a field day. Your turn. (may be a bit more difficult as I am sure his stuff would fill a yacht if it indeed does not already include a yacht.. Evidently the vast reach doesnt include responsibility to inform all those reached.. Our goal is to help you along your discipleship journey and enjoy a full life as a follower of Christ.. The cost is too high for all involved. Lets pray for him , his wife and his children until they are healed and restored and he is forgiven by The Lord , if not already ! Hello dear readers! But there is a big difference. Leave your address so we can show up and stone you as a false prophet. There are 476 comments so far as I write this. Total identity loss. The blog host has spent the week publishing positive, restorative articles after the news broke. Against a power play by Bob [ie. Deal with that and then come talk to me. Please disagree with vigor if you choose, but lets not make it personal. Miss Daisy, i assume youre a woman, if youre not, then you have bigger problems, but if youre a woman of course you havent had problems with porn, porn is primarily a mans vice. doctrine like eschatology comes up, they all come out with very strong verbiage? Anon I always thought it was a collaborative effort mostly with Hickling (the most knowledgeable of the bunch, based out of TN I think ) etc. She also loves Bode dearly and does everything in her power to help him. 8 The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adders den. Is it a place to raise up believers to Go out and make disciples? Oh, he doesnt think that on the surface, but he knows what he is doing. I think the blogger has the best synopsis of what the biblical model is to do in this case. That was their choice, not mine. It just shows you cant answer me, so you put up a man who has been dead over 400 yrs and argue with him. If you are having trouble keeping your hands off the ladies, just stop it. It is no doubt that BC did a lot of good. What I did say is held by 80% of the Church today. Although Bob was a pastor of a mega church and held to a higher standard, he is still a human being, and human beings are flawed sinners. Mercy should not be misused to render punishment ineffective for both. Youre right. But I suspect the board is not relishing any sordid details; on the contrary they feel compelled to cover for the reputation of the christian church. I hope wiser minds prevail. Was Nero the anti christ? Please tell me how could he take communion while screwing someone else the last year..Id like to know when he lost his values, his morals, his honesty..his life is a lie. Youre boorish behavior reflects poorly on the myriad of folks who are supportive of the Coy family and the value or validity of the teaching ministry he had. Always til Eternity. We are all sinners, we are taught to forgive, and I forgive you. in fact, when the idea is brought up, Jesus denies he has a reign here on earth. The Bible is brutally honest about the failings of the heros of the faith. I think it is worth reading. Why is that, exactly? no im not angry. He can't be put in a position of power ever again," Newnham stressed. PS Connie and Ashleigh (Pastors Gregs wife) have been afflicted with cancer I will ask you all to hold them in prayer this month please. he dispatches each to their eternal destinies 5.) Listen to my advise forget what others are doing if you are having issues with porn, just stop it. Better perforate your Bibles if that is so. Of course all of this is only necessary if Bob continued his maneuvering with long tethers to his followerscause thats how unhealthy people of influence roll. Lorenzo, http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/80920408899/what-were-reading, Lorenzo, Consider this http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/80107711769/the-libertine. Unfortunately, Bob Coy like thousands of ministers and leaders throughout the ages before him, thought that the means and process and seeming results justified the end. Power corrupts and if you know your pastor isnt Jesus, then dont tempt him and stumble him with all that power that only a Jesus wouldnt be corrupted by. Florida newspapers are covering it now. Diane's son survived the accident with several injuries and the passengers in the Tracker suffered minor injuries. It is pride that is the root of that sin. I have not been to this site in quite sometime (If anyone doubts that , Im sure Michael can verify that, right Michael?) I hope Joe Focht can get her story and reconsider the Moses Model and other vision casters in his region. It must be ok to allow our men to struggle with viewing women in tight clothes, low-neck shirts, or high skirts. What about them? come now and get real it is plain as day, that if you really read the Bible with all your heart you would know that the mark of the beast is a bar code stamped on your forehead. The church only loses if they go to the punishment and exposure message without hope of recovering a brother. What I know of Jesus was a reference to this blog in a news report, so I came to read it and all I read are hypocritical wolves tearing at the wounded, self righteous people looking down their noses at others, so if this is Christianity I would rather be with those who are honest and forthright, and theyre not on this blog! Am I close? Shouldnt these posts be cathartic? For me involves simply the interest in private conversation with people outside my circle. Unlike many Protestant churches, which set up powerful boards of elders to oversee ministers, Calvary used a management style Smith called the "Moses method. True confession accepts 100% of the blame. Because the whole reason to deal with this kind of sin in the community is what it does to the community. I'll never forget that meeting.". I dont think it was ever told. All Scripture is self-attesting and being Truth, requires our unreserved submission in all areas of life. E said, A man posted yesterday on FB that something like 40% of pastors struggle with some sort of sexual sin. I dont always agree with his point of view and we have had a few discussions to that end. The buzz that started as an anonymous comment on calvarychapelabuse.com has been confirmed. Make your own application. CCFtl was the only Bible based church for miles. You must have wrote it after I closed the thread. As I made comment on those who did, others jumpe in and made each a Luther discussion. He boasted of a vast media reach. Make your own application, Bob wrote: Ive studied John Macarthur for quite some time and know him to be a wolf in sheeps clothes. Pray for Bob in this very dark hour for many. Talk about distractions in worship! Though having an affair is the most likely of the possibilities, there is NO factual confirmation of this and anybody reporting it as fact at this point is wrong. If anything, this week, this place, has attempted to bring some good, some lessons, some encouragement, and some healing to those caught in that wreckage, and I include myself in that group. He had admitted to a grave "moral failing." God will not be mocked. She loves binge-watching and can spend hours talking about movies and TV shows. I guess you deemed references to lying in the Bible as Calvinist, so they dont apply to you. And I agree with Michael, resigned/fired can be one and the same in the business world. Please reveal your sources, or at least generically their affiliation to Calvary Chapelor leave the story alone and let the church handle it in house.thank you, AND GOD BLESS YOU!! Im a little slow like that. I have struggled to find a place to call home as well. Andy, I saw no verses posted by you AND you have not shown where Jesus spoke of this 1,000 yr earthy reign. Since you have only been taught the CC line yes, Satan has been bound for the past 2,000 years. We are living in times unlike any other time in history, when did you ever hear of kids sexting, porn at the click of a button, drugs (marihuana) legalized, same sex marriage being made the law of the land, its a war the Bible says that is raging with the devil knowing that his time is short, woe onto you inhabitants of the earth for the devil comes down to you with great wrath knowing that his days are short So we have casualties of war, BC is a casualty of this war, one who needs healing and restoration, not expulsion and condemnation! I did not interpret Acts 2 I just posted it. HMMMMM Heretic, this sound more like what I have heard. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they teach., And also with Paul who said in Phil 1:15-18. Ok. we still want to see evidence. Both guilty, but with massively different responsibilities before God. The CC dove poops again. What was the result of your victimization? Can you provide Scripture which states that in apocalyptic literature every time there is a mention of thrones, it is a heavenly scene and not an earthy scene? it never happened. Pastor Bob Coy left with his family. Bob is still as precious as ever to our Father. Coy is twisting in the wind. Bob Coy's income source is mostly from being a . he could always go back to Vegas as a comedy act. And this must continue for no less than the time it takes to convince (with actions/not words) the Body that the work they see in Bob is Gods and not Bobs. "I can't discuss it on the record," the former pastor, who managed a casino with exotic dancers in Las Vegas before committing his life to Christ, said when approached in October. This time around you guys got it right. He attended machinist trade school and completed a three-year apprenticeship in machining. AND YES I KNOW THEY ARE CONNECTED AND PRIDE COMES BEFORE Ive seen knock out hot girls in tight dresses looking more like they are going clubbing than to Gods house stand in line to get a picture with him, he was your Pastor girls and MARRIED hes not a freakin rock star. I had a CCer proclaim on the other blog one time, Chuck would NEVER lie!, and I commented, wow, thats amazingyou mean Chuck Smith is perfect now like Jesus and hes never lied since he became saved? Michael Can the post I sent last night at 11pm still be posted? Ill note #10 as I update the article shortly. I know of huge churches that do teach the Bible, and arent funny at all, and they still have a large attendance. needed payment. Youre saying he was fired which is inaccurate. Dispensationalism was unheard of until the 1800s. Young women begged for photos. Unreal. An indiscretion with a woman..ok.two women is ok in this culture. Payne had experience with sensitive cases involving sex crimes; earlier that year, he'd investigated a high-ranking cop for allegedly assaulting a 13-year-old girl. MLD #681. no venom) ..I know too well the disappointment of which you speak. It will take much longer possible years for healing with his family but it is worth it and will take work. BTW I was present at that city commission meeting. Truth and reality may arise for all involved. Time to Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.2Tim 2:15. King David was called to build the temple of the lord much like a Pastor is called to build a church / congregation. I dont find that in the NT you will need to show me. The Bible is inerrant. It leaves a lot of multi-sites in the dark. The majority of this thread is a disgrace to anyone who calls themself a Christian. Also, your link article suggests that we ought not make a big deal out of it cause he stepped down. But since the binding of Satan, the word has gone all over the word. Do we take measures that heal or expunge the record of his existence? Here we are, with sicknesses, war, hate, famine, destruction world wide. What???? A dear friends daughter became a Coy-ite while pursuing a degree in the Ft. Lauderdale area, and my friend jumped on the bandwagon after visiting CC during a trip down there. 2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. . If he had been going around dipping his quill in several other inkwells and coming back to sis for access you get the picture, I would personally go over to him and beat him up and help toss his butt out of the house. You just have to be careful when looking for a church some of these churches teach that Calvinism garbage, like God had chosen some to go to hell and theres no such thing as free will for the nonbeliever, and the limited atonement nonsense that Jesus only died for the elect and not for the whole world, others teach replacement theology that God is through with the nation of Israel and we the church have replaced them and there are no more promises for Israel, but instead they apply to the church. maybe you could pray for everyone and call it a day. A man of that importance-you dont think would have been brought before the congregation and prayed off as they have done in the past with others who have left? He would regularly "finger and fondle her" genitals, make her touch his penis, and "dirty talk" to her. It takes some man to teach people to come to those conclusions that you would never come to without that man. I know nothing more then that he got caught. What would Jesus do? BC is not a victim he is a victimizer. I also pray he has the right people alongside him-people that truly care about him-like we did. To Andy (#652), Good points. Broward State Attorney Mike Satz says he was never notified about the investigation. Even in the chemically altered '70s music business, Coy's appetites were too voracious. According to Christianity Today, he'd been fired twice before for sexual misconduct, including once after getting caught having sex on church grounds, but kept getting his job back. So if you have a problem with that, take it up with God. My prayer is that the people of God will intercede for this family and stop throwing rocks into a glass house.. As we look at the fall of David, Moses and others in the word, what makes Bob Coy any different then those mentioned. Unfortunately, his teaching was very shallow, and a tendency toward story-telling and stand-up comedy in favor of sound, Biblical doctrine was both offensive and disappointing to me.