So I cancelled the dispute but adviced Paypal that they were selling fake Ping clubs. Many friends have tried my clones and find no dropoff in performance. We have seen many counterfeit drivers and most of the time the club sits open or closed when at address. Glad you enjoyed it John. But there are signs that they tried to fix it they send you back to the order catalog!! Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Great Post!Whats worse about these counterfeit clubs,is to play against a good player using them, and shoots 72 on you all day!.. Thanks Dave, A lot of the companies that were offering fake clubs were advertising on Google Adwords. Seriously, Vic, use your brain. Arrived promptly, managed to view and test the set. Stop asking about reputeable sites! Many people are trying to sell back their counterfeit purchases back to ebay at market prices. Go to your local golf store instead. They have several models with "forged" stamped in that location. anyone have any feedback for an ebay seller itaintpretty? I assume the Miura heads on DHGate and AliExpress are fake, and it seems like discussions here suggest that is so. Also offers forged irons and putters. gu shan qu They obvsiouly only have only one ball tray or maybe, again, that is Chinese speak for ball trays and please inform me what greens fork balls are. Just looking for the best deals without getting ripped off. I bought some Ping G25s and while the shafts (TFC 360 graphite) and grips looked ok, the heads had a plastic covered piece of grey foam where the CTP should be (Tungsten insert). Thanks, Pete. A friend put it on his scale to check swing weight (should have been D3) and it was so heavy it was off the scale. I had demoed the real thing and it was like night and day. I finally took it to a reputable supplier and compared it side by side. What about http://www.golfselling.com they are new too, and price offered does not make sense at all, be aware. Also, the magnet did not stick to the club face, so if its a knockoff, its a pretty damn good one. I got a great deal from discountgolfworld.com and they are an Internet Authorized Dealer to boot. That's why he went into business for himself and founded Miura, one of the best-known manufacturers of high-quality . They claim it is all authentic but, after reading all the above, now Im not so sure. But I thought the manufacturers prohibited the price cutting. PunnyCode : golfleading.com, Registrant: This could of course change in the future. This is a very enlighten article. With its strategic carrier agreements, RockBottomGolf.com is able to serve more than 30 countries in the world in 3 days or less allowing everyone to enjoy RockBottomGolf.com deals as well as Rock Bottom shipping rates. They claim: Me 13:42:41 . What a great forum. I would start from here and then follow the steps this website has posted. The reviews available on their website are reassuring but its still a guess. can you confirm i got ripped off at http://www.discountgolfwholesale.com ? Did you take the club to an authorized retailer to check it? By the end of the month I had been fitted for, and ordered a . My clubs arrived in great shape and I had actually talked to one of the guys at the shop at garagesalegolf before they shipped as I had inquired about a speedier shipment and they called me to try to rush it out (I ended up choosing the normal route which still arrived a couple of days faster than I thought it would). Created on: 23-Mar-98 I just purchased a complete set of Nike Slingshot 3,4 & 5 hybrid and 6-PW, Taylormade 2009 Burner and 3-wood, and 3 TM gloves through Ebay from Golfetail.com. All other club manufacturers have similar authorised retailer pages on their websites. Also a great tip for fake Scotty Camerons is when they spell Scotty Scottie and when there are many listings of the same club with the same picture. Thanks. Over the last few weeks, I have noticed a bunch of auctions for counterfeit Miura MC-501 irons listed. Very safe bet that 2nd swing items are authentic. ns5.store.yahoo.com Im in india so shipping is another story!! According to the cobra website , (click the online dealer link) golf247 are an authorised dealer. the club didnt actually come from Taylormade but was made with parts. Just wanting to make sure. Anyone have any feedback with these sites? Registrant: Please advise, Has anyone bought clubs from this site? His reply was that I should just refuse the club when it comes but he would have to charge me $20 because he is out $50 s&h. Is this legit? I bought two fairway woods in a packe deal at a really good price. Same story as mine. A magnet will not stick to a titanium driver, but it will to a counterfeit steel driver. Notice the ferrule is much shorter on the counterfeit club. Page Views per Visit: Up Arrow 1 Month: 2.5 3 Month: 1.7. So I repeat my accusation. 059186988288 fax: 059186988288 Please leave them in the comment box below or contact us through email or phone. : Anyway, the saying goes, if it sounds too good to be true, chances are that it isnt true. I will speak to Cobra direct when they reopen after the weekend. I just purchased a PING G15 driver & 3 wood combo. I just bought cobra S2 Driver from Ebay. Does anyone know whether this suppliers sell original stuff? where is your company based? something,and golfonline always offer som 2420 E Hennepin Ave How do i know that a number given to me on a G15 is ok not fake, has anyone heard anyhing bad about http://www.perfectoutdoorgame.com am about to order some clubs from them. Thats a scam Craig no doubt about it. I do not know if it could be a fake or not. Maybe you just need golf lessons. I recently bought some irons off of this same seller and wondered if you ever got official word whether your clubs were real. However, there are other issues. SO Beware!!! Dont be an idiot any longer. have been looking at www.discountgolfworld.com (from the TM site) and I have not been able to find a legit online dealer who can beat their prices across most brands. I sent an email out the next day to both Talormade and the seller. Hey check on my blog for beginning golfers. However, it offers discounts for retailers that sell higher volumes. At least you know where to go if something goes wrong. This guy pays for a business license to sell products wholesale. If you find a bunch of clubs with Project X shafts at regular steel shaft prices beware. They said they would answer my quirry but I doubt it. AGREE with the above. It is obvious that if a clubhead is enlarged and made of steel, its playing characteristics will be outside normal tolerances of club design. Im considering looking into the law about a name and shame list not that I can stop it just make people aware, there are some websites that list them but not great as I found out theres to many forums and not enough Help/ action that my opinion. Do they ship by EMS and tell you the package will be marked as GIFT? This is a small family run operation where each and every club head passes through a rigorous inspection at the Miura owned forge and factory in Himeji, Japan. Miura President Hoyt McGarity described the IC-601 series as "higher, longer, and more forgiving than any other in the Miura lineup." Made with 455 Carpenter steel, the IC-601 irons are strong and durable, and the weight of the irons has been strategically moved toward the back of the clubhead. And that 50% of top blands as well, wow! Guys that sell 2-5 clubs at a time once or twice a year. Province: Fujian Could this be possible? Carlsbad, CA 92008 These are somewhat cumstomizable for loft, shaft, etc. Too many blatant red flags. My son wants to order from them thanks, I just recieved a Scotty Camaron putter from them and compaired it to my own, seems okay the weight is good it sits behind the ball well, checked on the Scotty Camaron wedsite and is identical to the ones on screen, so if it is fake then its flipping good. I am not sure if that website came up in the post or not. lol Or just simply ask if the clubs have a factory warranty. To this day, Miura-san continues to work in the factory with his sons, Shinei and Yoshitaka, who proudly carry on the Miura legacy. is sunogolf.com real stuff please i need feedback. While I cannot disclose my reasons, none of the counterfeits return to market via e-Bay or any other sounce. Usually, when a website has other affiliate websites (usgolfsale.com & golfsales365) this puts up a red-flag, immediately! Thats not to say there arent fakes! he has pretty good deals. In this case it looks like Edin Watts, Golfsmith and TGW are all legit. I ask abut the low prices, why that is, they said they buy directly from manufacturer and post to customer as a gift. I am open to suggestion to purchase used clubs on ebay. Glad to hear. I am looking at buying a set of Callaway clubs, and have come across http://www.golfbuyitonline.com which appear have some really good offers on at the moment. Thanks. Bill Street3: Right on Brian! Actually, sometimes my credit card gets blocked, those card companies put pesky fraud detection on them and sometimes block transactions on websites they think are dodgy. They are owned by golfstixvalueguide.com. If they have several negatives or if they dont have a lot of transactions or feedback, be leery. I did business with 3balls and i recommend it. scratching), but I really dont care about appearance I want function! Face angle and the way the club sits on the ground will be different. All very genuine, especially the can openers. If you need anything else feel free to ask Todd. AGAIN! Whois History: 5 records have been archived since 2009-03-14. jarediogolf 90% of me says avoid like the plague. hello everyone, I just bought a set of callaway x22 irons, 5-pw on ebay from a shop called Your post got my attention about the possibility of manufacturers making extra units for themselves and selling them for a way cheaper price. Would I be wrong in saying that they are not made in the muzuno factory? Fax : 86-010-2994895-111 They also have two stores in Michigan that look legit. Go get fitted from a golf professional that knows what they are doing. Can anyone verify this website. [emailprotected] By These folks seem to be legitimate. I determined this by noting that at address the labeling on the shafts was visible whereas the genuine Ping clubs have the labeling on the underside at address. Miura (13) Mizuno (241) Nickent Golf (0) Nike (45) Odyssey (15) Ping (314) PRGR (267) Roddio (29) RAM (0) Royal Collection (5) S - Z; . itaintpretty has about 15,000 feedback w/ 99% positive feedback. I cant put with my real Odyssey, and dont want to shell out 180 on the real thing. The flange seems to be a standard length with a single thin sight line. and it looks pretty good. Its a ladies Adams 13 pc A3 OS. Looking that up, shows HUGE SCAM. Aliexpress is well known for selling all sorts of counterfeit gear. However, cobra told me golfetail was legit and not to worry about any counterfeit products. Looks like Im just another victim of fraud. : Crazy 460 + Crazy's LY 01 (LY-01) Hot Black 6.9 Ryoma F3 + Crazy Black FW80 6.9 Yururi Flatback Raw + Modus 3 Stiff Fourteen Wedges 52* 56* 60* Lajosi BM3 Smooth . I 19:47:00, Sir,our clubs are not 100% original but would perform the same. http://www.callawaygolfpreowned.com is the way to go! How to spot fake Miuras in pics? They removed serial numbers from authentic watches to eliminate the tracing of the product and sold them through internet storefronts that do not have the original retailers name. The safest way I see it would be to spend a few bucks more and get the $1300 clubs instead of paying $250 and having them be counterfeit. Surely someone with a reasonable command of the English language would say clubs, bags, balls, hat, gloves etc. I now own 2 TaylorMade R9 farway woods for $68.50 that are almost identical to the authenic clubs, but I am still trying to shut the seller down. One company gave them an 81 percent safe rating. OK so much for describing the difference between fakes and clones. Could you please tell me what is ill-founded or unqualified about that? cast carbon steel originals would have been D2 SW- 1 degree upright and forged. instead of 70 gms. I have ordered a Callaway womans 5 hybrid on ebay. If you purchace clubs online just make sure you use paypal. Bill Name: Brandgolfclubs The majority of their workers put in 12-hour days, 7-days a week, and are paid only about $150 a month. I am looking to replace an older Miura model but I don't see it on your website. They are made in China but are assembled in the United States. I feel fairly confident that the clubs he is selling are legitimate because I asked for a custom order and he was able to oblige I also asked if the clubs could be drop shipped directly from the manufacturer here in the United States and he said yes they could. During my 11 years in the golf industry I have seen an explosion in golf club counterfeiters. http://www.golfrealdeal.com. the site is called perfect outdoor game. The site looks liggit, even has a USA address in Chicago, USA telephone number!!! I just had an experience with http://www.golfwholesaleshop.com that I came out very lucky on. Thank you for the post. gu shan qu Two strikes looking for a third. Fake clubs? Minneapolis, Minnesota 55413 Paint fill will be slightly off color and sometimes will also be outside the lines. I buy Chinese clubs. having said that taylormade will NOT confirm serial numbers anymore, so what theyre saying is that there is no way to know if these are authentic. i have a question not pertaining to a web sight but maybe someone can help. I too have a product made in China and have learned a lot about the way they think and operate. The website was not a secured site and B of A has had to give him a new account number. . I was looking at Japan Tour Issued R11 irons on ebay is their anything i should look for to tell if they are fakeAnybody have anything on these? Golfuksales.uk is selling fake clubs from china. Im seeing about 10 yards additional distance with each club over my previous set (RAM Tours). What questions should I ask? Like someone above commented, our sweet spot is getting closeouts, overstocks, and liquidation goods that we can sell at significant discounts. Sorry that happened to you. Have they only got one golf towel or is that Chinese speak for golf towels.